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Sirius1001 Joined: 01 October 2004 Posts in this thread: 1	Posted on 08 November 2004 4:51 AM Hello World! Someone knows the number of surface combatants and subs to be deployed by the Russian Navy in the near future. Despite turmoil in the past ten years, now it seems likely that Russia is entering into strong economic recovery era. I would like to get further information about new destroyers, frigates, corvettes, submarines and missile boats and the like as well. Nice regards! Post Reply
Zulu1002 Joined: 06 April 2005 Posts in this thread: 1	Posted on 06 April 2005 5:41 PM I think one of Putin's resolves are to rebuild the Russian Navy. Since the collapse, it has been in a very grim state of affairs. The Kursk Incident definitely didn't help. Post Reply
Gemini1002 Joined: 14 June 2005 Posts in this thread: 1	Posted on 14 June 2005 1:53 PM Is Russia enough of a maritime power to need to build a navy at the expense of army and air force needs that more directly affect the country's security? I understand the prestige aspect, but their continental forces are in serious need of work. Add to that the need to bolster the strategic forces in the face of American missile defense developments, and it would seem to me that besides some good words and token ship launches, a real build-up of the Russian navy isn't really the best move for Russia right now. Post Reply
Nimrod1001 Joined: 04 February 2005 Posts in this thread: 1	Posted on 15 June 2005 6:46 AM I did a horrifying calculation the other day, by converting the Russian defense budget into Australian dollars. Do this now with whatever your national currency is. The result will be depressing for the russians. Even taking into consideration that a Ruble buys more in the former Soviet republics, I think plans may remain just plans. I know that they would like to get their new Ballistic subs up and running as soon as possible, and finish the conversion work on the last Typhoon. Post Reply
Cobra1004 Joined: 01 November 2005 Posts in this thread: 1	Posted on 01 November 2005 8:51 AM The Russian navy is very bad. Already it is not even 10 % of what was in the epoch of the Soviet Union. Russia already is not important in europa Post Reply
Bravo1004 Joined: 15 January 2006 Posts in this thread: 1	Posted on 15 January 2006 6:06 PM Trying to consider the sources, both on line and Jane's. I would argue, that the russians would struggle to depoly 11 "modern" SSN's, 9-10 SSGN's, 20 plus SSK's, 13 SSBN. So, from a submarine perspective certainly would struggle in any offensive operation, and the russian navy would proabably lose against combined EU sub force. Surface fleet is hard to assess: but i am estimating (more positive than negative) 18 destroyers, 10 modern frigets, 2 cruiser, 1-2 battlecruisers. 1 aircraft carrier. Training is sevearly restricted, I was taking to an orion pilot this past summer and he was saying, they rarley train a whole lot, they come out of port, run about, and return. Also, up-grades to the weapon and electronics, I have not clue, but i can not imagine it being much good. Post Reply

Hydra1005 Joined: 03 April 2006 Posts in this thread: 2	Posted on 05 April 2006 4:04 PM Good thread and excellent info. Russia still operates 12 active SSBNs, of which 7 are Delta IVs, and 3 of the giant Typhoons (out of the 6 made), 3 of the Delta IIIs (ourt of 14 made), and 1 old Yankee. The Russian navy plans to havew 12 operational only by 2008-09, so I expect the Yankee and 1 older Delta III to be retired this year. Of the Russian SSGNs, 5 of the 11 Oscar II guided missiles subs still operate on a limited basis. The loss of the Kursk was a blow for this carrier Battle Group Killer of the Russian navy in 2000. Russia still operates 17 SSNs, 6 of the incredible Akulas, 3 Sierras, and 8 Victor IIIs (out of the orginal 26). Expect 2-3 of these to be retitred by 2008. Manstein Post Reply
Hydra1005 Joined: 03 April 2006 Posts in this thread: 2	Posted on 05 April 2006 4:12 PM And of the large fleet ships, don't forget the "pocket battleship", Kirov class cruiser still operational (might be 2 after her refit is done in 2008). There was 4 of these beasts, the largest non-carrier miltary ships built since WW II. Take a look on the web for the Kirov/Orlan class cruisers. Google image search for pics. Also google the SU-37 berkut 4th generation fighter. Also take a look at Russia's newest boomer SSBNs, the 955 Borey. Manstein Post Reply
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