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Sickle1001
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Posted on 13 December 2005 4:31 PM

Alright I want everyone to goive me their opinions on this forum. I want to know what everyone belives what aircraft will be in the USAF from 2035-2050. I know its thirty years away, but I also know that you will be able to help me on this.

I'll have additional threads on the US Army and Navy as time goes on.









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Quebec1004
Joined: 10 February 2006
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Posted on 13 February 2006 2:28 PM

Well it is a great challenge to foresee the shape and technology of any armed force in the future. I might have some information and even some ideas about some technology and shape of the US forces.

First of all the information as the US DOD portrays their future armed forces

For the US Air Force they say it will be structured around combat wings of the same type of aircraft, but only for large scale war, and for the expeditionary small scale campaigns they will use the AEF (Aerospace Expeditionary Force) concept, meaning a combined mini air force that has both combat and support aircraft tailored for the specific mission it is involved in.

About the aircraft they will use it will probably be a mixture of upgraded F-22, F-35, FB-22 (if they ever decide to build this medium range bomber), and the UCAV which they envision as medium range long endurance strike platform used to defeat sophisticated Air Defense Systems. The transport and logistics aircraft they will use will be a variation of the current C-17 (probably the C-17X version with longer range and a maximum payload under normal conditions increased by some 15%), the upgraded C-5M (if they decide to go ahead with the upgrade) and probably the replacement of the C-130 Hercules the ATT and the replacement for the KC tankers used today with the KC-X project which now is only theoretical. About electronic warfare and surveillance aircraft it will probably be a mixture of UAV and very advanced and expensive C&C aircraft.

But all this is the common hardware used to deliver the weapons which depending on how the Research and Development of technology such as laser weapons and generally directed energy weapons will be we may hear about weapons such as the aircraft bomb only in ancient history books (remember they are still used today about 30-40% of the bombs they use in war are dumb bombs), as I believe we will see such weapons as SDB, JDAM-X, JCM, LOCCAS or other such high-tech mini robot missiles with various types of sub-munitions.

As for how I think it should be:

I believe they should go on with the production of the F-22 and upgrade progressively it’s capability to include all sort of missions, and they should build sufficient aircraft to equip two full combat wings with spares and all (something like two wings of 3 squadrons each, each squadron with 24 PMAI organized in two detachments of 12 aircraft each in order to easily integrate in the AEF both USAF and USN squadrons which as you probably know are of 12 aircraft in size, and 2 BAI, and also 2 training squadrons which can also be used as reserve squadrons because I believe they should do training in advanced simulators but also with aircraft, that makes a total of 204 aircraft to which they can add some aircraft used as spares up to a total of 240 F-22 in the arsenal).

For the FB-22, I hope they build it as a replacement for the famed F-111, F-15E, and F-117 which where mini strike bombers, and possibly even to replace some true bombers of today, I envision much the same structure as for the F-22 but with fewer training aircraft because some of the training will be done on the F-22 since they have the same technology and cockpits, maybe the number would be 200-210 aircraft.

For the F-35, I believe they should build less than the planned 1760 aircraft for the USAF, and maybe build something like 1200 to use both by the Active force and by the Air National Guard (I have somewhere an exact computation I did on how many wings and squadrons they may need but I am not going to boor you with that). As it is a multipurpose aircraft it should be easily prepared for any mission.

For the UCAV, I think they might need some 400 just for the Air Force used as medium range long endurance strike bombers.

In essence al the combat force and not also it, should be structured to be modular (same squadron size, same wing size)

For strategic warfare they should keep a wing of bombers (maybe some 50 bombers with a training aircraft and all).

Strategic and theater airlift forces should be structured as to meet the demands of expeditionary warfare, which today is great and in the future will be greater, so I believe they should have some 260 C-17X, 60 C-5M, 450 KC-X or some other equivalents and some 350 ATT.

For reconnaissance and C2 fewer aircraft are needed, but a lot of UAV.

Also as I understand they want to build large blimps (like the one seen in the movie “Stealth” which was used as an airborne refueling station), and blimps used to transport huge amounts of cargo (they talk about 1000 tons) over long distances, but I believe they will be impractical, so I think they will stick with the known technology and upgrade the systems with new weapons as they become available. I believe they will put more emphasis on “high-tech in old bottles”.

I hope my answer satisfies you.



For more information on this you can check the www.globalsecurity.org site.











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Ghauri1003
Joined: 29 June 2005
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Posted on 24 March 2006 3:22 AM

Its along way off but also close. I think we will see less tanks and armor, replaced by more agile recon platforms with extensive range and counter measure abilities.

For the U.S. I think what we will see is more automation. Americas biggest problem right now is losing men. Their people don't seem to mind waging war they just dont like the casualties. If they can develop a ground unmanned combat vehicle they could effectively tackle conflict anywhere.

I'd love to know Chinas plans. Whether or not they are looking at just defence or actually trying to develop a cross ocean offensive abiltiy. The Chinese seem to like the taste of Iranian oil so maybe they could get there by land.

But I think 2036 will see more robots basically. What satisfaction will the terrorists get from blowing up unmanned vehicles? Ha Ha none.











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